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Discharging a debt during bankruptcy?

My wife is filing for bankruptcy and one of our creditor’s is Kay Jewelers. We bought our wedding rings through them back in 2008. We received a letter in the mail today saying that they may have a non-dischargeability cause of action against us if we don’t turn our rings over, which we really don’t want to have to do. I know that it seems like the sensible thing to do and we can’t really afford to pay off the debt. Is there any alternative to giving the rings back or paying the debt?
Thank you all for answering so quickly. First, I am not on any of her loans/ debts so it wasn’t really advisable that I file as well. The only thing I have in my name is my student loans and our car (which the person who helped us file our paperwork said we wouldn’t need to worry about since the title is in my name). With that said, while we were filling out our paperwork, there is a section that you get to put items that you would like to have exempt from the bankruptcy i.e. jewelry, clothes, electonics… and you’re allowed up to a certain value for each item. Our rings fell way below the limit so we were told that we could keep them. Lastly, and unfortunately, it was a secured loan so they are saying that the rings are collateral and they have the right to either take them back or have us pay it back.

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Should bankruptcy exist?

Bankruptcy is the root of all injustice. When someone can finance 0,000 for a house, file bankruptcy, and then continue living in the house scott-free, there’s something wrong with our government.

I’m a FIRM believer than bankruptcy shouldn’t exist. I’d rather receive someone’s detached arm in the mail as compensation for unpaid bills than a government issued judgment against that person, or bankruptcy papers. Because both mean the same thing: you get nothing.

Bankruptcy is truly the most gross example of injustice in the United States and people do it multiple times in their lifetime. Nothing good can come from bankruptcy. What are you thoughts?
By the way, the "injustice" I’m referring to is to the people who have loaned that person money. If you are considered an "unsecured loan", it’s about a 99/100 chance you’ll get absolutely nothing. If you are a "secured loan", in which only home mortgages and car loans can be, you will get your money though it will take forever. Finally, the lawyer who performed the bankruptcy gets 100% of his fee. Where’s the justice in that?

Bob Zoo down the street who loaned John Doe 00 to get a new car, and even had John sign a promissary note now gets absolutely nothing due to the bankruptcy, and is out 00, AND John Doe gets to keep his car.

WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?
slimick, there were no incorrect assumptions. I don’t know what state, country or planet you live on, but here in Arkansas that’s the way it works. I’ve done my homework. I know who gets paid, who doesn’t, and why. Unfortunately your response had nothing to do with anything I was talking about. You just wanted to hear yourself talk about medical issues. Great job there in the relevance category. Not.
And you’re right. I don’t care about Enron. I care about the little guy. The little guy who owes people money and files bankruptcy. Money or an arm. It’s that simple. Or I’m gonna take it out of their ass.
At crazyjes… yawn. Too much to read, too ridiculous. Who cares about what companies do, I’m talking about people vs. people. Never seen Goodfellas. Not a collection agency agent. Just a regular ole Joe Blow who’s been screwed too many times by people, whilest people like you sit there and defend the unjust bankruptcy system that lets them get away with it. I certainly hope someone screws you out of money so you can be on the receiving end of bankrupty. It’s such a nice feeling.

Oh, and as for your hypothetical woman with so many kids who had to file bankrupty, well she should have thought about that before she married the first guy she met in high school, and then quit school to have four kids. Yeah. She did it to herself out of stupidity. I want her money too if she owes it to me. It’s like that. Justice for Justice. Money for Money. None of this, "I charge up stuff and not pay it." Totally unjust. The laws should be changed. People should be shot for this.

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When I file for bankruptcy tommorow will it get rid of payday advances I have?

Tommorow Im fileing for a chapter 7 banruptcy because I have accumilated about 5,000 in back medical bills and what I wanna know is I have a cash advance out and this is in michigan and will the fileing put a stop to the cash advance and make it so I dont have to pay it? Or is a cash advance a secured loan or is it a unsecured? Because the chapter 7 wont get rid of my secured loans.

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